tubewhore: The map.

Tubewhore (

tubewhore) wrote,
@ 2008-01-14 18:44:00

The map.
The map is the law underlying the project; if it's on the map it counts and has to be collected.

I arrive into Paddington a little after half nine on Thursday evening, feeling like a refugee as I'm dragging one of those woven plastic checkered bags that you see the weary gathered at Victoria Coach Station using as the luggage of choice. Mine only contains curtains and a fur throw for

midnightxpress - I'm decluttering, he's nest building in Surbiton and there was a pile of curtains sitting here taking up space that should be made use of. And I'm feeling lost and rootless anyway and I drag the bag, inch by ruddy inch along the full length of the platform as my reservation was in the farthest carriage from the ticket barrier...

...at the tube station, I dutifully pick up the new map to peruse as we drag the curtains to Waterloo for G's train back to a hotel in suburbia. It's changed radically. Clapham Junction is now on the map. Watford bloody Junction is there...and some place called Headstone Lane which appeals at least. All in all the count has gone up from the 274 tube stations proper to a total of 343 stations listed. I sigh with resignation. Still gives me something to do of a weekend...the new map is ugly though; the clarity is gone. I stare at it in annoyance as the 211 bus takes me over Westminster Bridge and through to Victoria and on to L's place. Clapham Junction?

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	deerfold 2008-01-14 07:05 pm UTC (link)
	Did someone add the Overground? Gone very Orange all of a sudden, hasn't it? If it helps with any logic, it's run by a completely different bit of TfL to the underground. I take it you hate this: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/Standard-Tube-map.pdf ? (Reply to this)(Thread)

eldar
2008-01-14 07:16 pm UTC (link)

Yep, the Overground has been dutifully added to the new Tube map. Basically it's what used to be the North London line and a couple of other bits as well, taken over by Ken and re-coloured on the map to make it stand out more. In 2010, the East London line will become part of it.

I think that it can safely be ignored as being part of the Tube (after all the North London line et al were on some maps in the past anyway).

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	tubewhore 2008-01-15 11:26 am UTC (link)
	I was going to do the North London/Silverlink as it was listed on the map...so in the interests of obsessive completeness I'll stick to the rule 'if it's on the tube map, it gets visited'. One never knows what little gems I might otherwise be missing out on... (Reply to this)(Parent)

	midnightxpress 2008-01-14 07:38 pm UTC (link)
	Thanks again for all your dragging efforts hon, the pieces have a new home here in Sur.... hope the lesson went well tis afternoon... (Reply to this)

	poggs 2008-01-14 07:57 pm UTC (link)
	I will escort/protect you on the bits of the map twixt Harrow & Wealdstone and Watford Junction. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	tubewhore 2008-01-15 11:28 am UTC (link)
	cool. Is it possible to walk between Watford and Watford Junction? Thinking of going up via the Metropolitan and down via the top of the Bakerloo/LO know thatit goes up that far. L knos someone tht runs a bellydancing class in Watford so thought it might quite fun to go up in sequinned bras and have a bit of a shimmy before returning to the metropolis (Reply to this)(Parent)

	severe_delays 2008-01-15 05:34 pm UTC (link)
	I'll do the escorting on her journey up as far as Harrow. :-) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	tubewhore 2008-01-15 07:10 pm UTC (link)
	I feel like I'm going to be handed across after secret handshakes like some prisoner in a clandestine Cold War exchange of spies... (Reply to this)(Parent)

	poggs 2008-01-15 07:36 pm UTC (link)
	Deal. We'll step back at Harrow. This means you will end up revealing your sekrit identity... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	tubewhore 2008-01-15 08:08 pm UTC (link)
	I'll wear my special decoder ring... ...expect you to b in a leather trenchcoat with a red carnation and a trilby... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	poggs 2008-01-15 08:14 pm UTC (link)
	I can manage a bowler hat, I don't own a leather trenchcoat. I fear looking too much like a member of the BNP! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	severe_delays 2008-01-15 09:04 pm UTC (link)
	Bugger. I don't have anything special to wear. :-( (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	poggs 2008-01-15 09:09 pm UTC (link)
	Be inconspicuous. Dress normal. Nobody suspects the ones dressed normally. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	severe_delays 2008-01-15 09:42 pm UTC (link)
	But when I dress normal for there I get people looking at me all the time. And if I don't dress normal for there then I'm not allowed to be there. I might get away with it if I just wear latex gloves. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	poggs 2008-01-15 09:47 pm UTC (link)
	I'd advise against it. It's cold outside. You'll turn blue and I'd have to call you Victoria. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	severe_delays 2008-01-15 10:51 pm UTC (link)
	Not ~~PicadillyPiccadilyPicaddily~~the other one then? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	poggs 2008-01-15 10:57 pm UTC (link)
	Frostbite is a mixture of Victoria "better warm it up" and Northern "whoops, that's my fingers gone". (Reply to this)(Parent)

	tubewhore 2008-01-15 09:49 pm UTC (link)
	/engage nerd mood/ " two by two, hands of blue".../develops sudden nosebleed and starts twitching/ /disengage nerd mood/... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	poggs 2008-01-15 10:58 pm UTC (link)
	You are to nerd what Etch-a-Sketch is to CAD. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	failing_angel 2008-01-14 08:03 pm UTC (link)
	I forgot to mention yesterday - I'll be up for Watford - it's my Dad's old manor, so I'd rather like to check it out. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	tubewhore 2008-01-15 11:37 am UTC (link)
	I think a picnic is in order. I still want to get one of those teak pinhole cameras and do some of the pictures at older stations using Victorian tech. Do you have any stories from your Dad about the old days in Watford? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	failing_angel 2008-01-15 12:48 pm UTC (link)
	Could be fun - I was looking at Cockfosters on the map yesterday - so close to bits of the Northern and Central Lines. Do you have any stories from your Dad about the old days in Watford? Not as such, although I know that he went to Watford Grammar School, and their principle was a WWII fighter pilot ace. It's all a bit 'Who Do You Think You Are?' this isn't it. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	devalmont 2008-01-14 08:09 pm UTC (link)
	Well if this is the only place that I can get in touch with you now, following the loss of your other LJ, let me know which tube station you want to meet at sometime! :-) (Reply to this)(Thread)

	tubewhore 2008-01-15 11:38 am UTC (link)
	Will do - although perhaps you should set the agenda for a station you fancy visiting. Most of the centre part of the map is done, so pick something weird you've never been to. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	devalmont 2008-01-15 05:38 pm UTC (link)
	Ooh, I'll have to have to have a look for something Victorian with lots of glass. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	tubewhore 2008-01-15 07:13 pm UTC (link)
	St Pancras! Let's get on the Eurostar and go collect Parisian tube stations...I've been on the Eurostar out of Waterloo but not SP yet. The trouble with a lot of the remaining stations is that I've nevr been to them, so no idea what we'll encounter when we get there. (Reply to this)(Parent)

sinmara
2008-01-14 09:30 pm UTC (link)

every morning before I head out to work I have a look on the realtime travel news tube map - and a few weeks ago suddenly my weary eyes noticed that something is not right on the map... I couldn't quite find what it was at first (being still half - asleep) but then I clapped my eyes on Clapham Junction - Clapham Junction?!? on the tube map?!???? are they MAD?

it looks really cluttered now :( how shall I put it. ME NOT LIKEY!

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	tubewhore 2008-01-15 11:38 am UTC (link)
	me not likey either - it's an ugly mess! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	primitivepeople 2008-01-14 10:06 pm UTC (link)
	I'd suggest that the new London Overground doesn't really count, but that's just me...it goes to some bloody horrible places, to be honest, so feel free to skip them... (Reply to this)(Thread)

	tubewhore 2008-01-15 11:39 am UTC (link)
	...but if the DLR counts, how can I claim that the LO doesn't? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	primitivepeople 2008-01-15 12:13 pm UTC (link)
	Hmmm...good point, I suppose. But the DLR has been tightly integrated into the TfL empire for years - perhaps just stick with the map as it was when you started. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	tubewhore 2008-01-15 12:45 pm UTC (link)
	...but I've just started tippexing a new one! And I collected Clapham Junction on the way to Brighton the other evening, so the intergration of the new stations into my plans is already underway. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	primitivepeople 2008-01-15 12:47 pm UTC (link)
	Well, it'll keep you going for a few more years. :) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	poggs 2008-01-15 07:41 pm UTC (link)
	You can't claim it doesn't count, under the 1997 Coloured Outline Line Act. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	jamesb 2008-01-15 07:39 am UTC (link)
	I think the OG has 57 stations, when its running. are you not secretly pleased? You could always not do it, let me know if you do intend to go to west croydon... J (Reply to this)(Thread)

tubewhore
2008-01-15 11:45 am UTC (link)

I used to live along the line between New Cross Gate and West Croydon, so yes I will be doing that section too...and now that it's on the map it gives a perfect excuse to go back to Crystal Palace and see the dinosaurs again. From there I can walk to Anerly station and pick up the other part of the line.

I worked ata thetre at West Croydon which was one of those jobs that you realised was a horrible mistake from about the seocnd day. I'm keen to go back and shake my tiny fist at them for old times sake. Or manical cackling and a petrol can...

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	jamesb 2008-01-15 08:27 pm UTC (link)
	a theartre in west Croydon... warehouse in East maybe? anyhow, give me a shout when you plan to do that, I might pop along. Say a very art Deco place to sit and have coffee on the platform of Waterloo East (mainline, thought I should mention it. J (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	tubewhore 2008-01-16 07:57 am UTC (link)
	It was indeed The Warehouse - only the line I lived on went into West Croydon, or I got the 450 bus... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	jamesb 2008-01-16 02:29 pm UTC (link)
	I pass it frequently, never been though. used to live opposite west croy station, an interesting spot. soon to radically change into an overground station, (er I think???) have you seen any info on how stations will change, and will southern still serve west croy? I expect they will. I hope they have a proper second exit onto station road, directly to the tram stop. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	spangle_kitten 2008-01-15 09:26 am UTC (link)
	I'll join you for part of the overground when you do the North-easty bit from Liverpool St - Bethnal Green to Stoke Newington area. At Stoke Newington I'll take you to a lovely little vintage shop :) (Reply to this)(Thread)

tubewhore
2008-01-15 11:49 am UTC (link)

groovy! If we want to go crazy I've always wanted to go to Trois Garcons (http://www.loungelover.co.uk/) in that area. It would be a bonkers extravagance, of course, but just look at the gallery - I wantto live in a place that has stuffed bulldogs wearing tiaras!

...and of course there's a the Denis Severs house and the Museum of Childhood at Bethnal Green that I've been saving for a special occasion.

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	spangle_kitten 2008-01-15 01:02 pm UTC (link)
	Wow, that place looks incredible! Would love to try it, especially looking at that desert menu... Hopefully we can co-ordinate, next dates I have booked are 9/10 and 23/24 February. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	tubewhore 2008-01-15 01:19 pm UTC (link)
	...and of course I'm up on the weekend between those two dates to see the Age of Enchantment exhibition at the Dulwich Picture Gallery before it closes on the 17th Feb. After that I'm up on the 8/9th March for the Acton Depot Open Day... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	spangle_kitten 2008-01-18 11:30 am UTC (link)
	Having looked at my diary I will be about on the 8/9 March... Then on the 22/23 and possibly the Bank Holidays either side. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	tubewhore 2008-01-18 03:29 pm UTC (link)
	..and my plans have changed so I wil be up the first weekend in February after all...plans are Dulwich Picture Gallery before the Age of Enchantment ends and Sewing Machine Museum, plus knocking out the end of the northern line (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	spangle_kitten 2008-01-18 03:36 pm UTC (link)
	I'm up 9/10 Feb, is that the date you mean or the 2/3 which I'm not up! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	rhythmaning 2008-01-18 09:35 pm UTC (link)
	I disagree. Tube stations are those on tube line - overground or underground. The non-tube rail lines and stations just don't count. Not for me, anyway. And I agree about the simplicity of the map being lost! (Reply to this)(Thread)

tubewhore
2008-01-19 09:25 am UTC (link)

I put it to a vote awhile back as to whether the DLR counted and the consensus view was for me to not be lazy and go out there and get them...so if the DLR is 'in' then I can't leave the Overground out.

Besides, I've not got much else to obsess over, and it means I get to travel the leg of New Cross Gate to West Croydon again, for old times sake. I've lived along most of that line, or have/had friends that do, so it's a very familiar stomping ground.

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